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the holidays in hawaii, his home state. do we know what, if anything, they are doing about that trip? >> reporter: that's not been announced yet, but since the congress is leaving, it would seem -- since the house of representatives, it would follow the president would go to hawaii for a period of time, would be my expectation. he could go sometime in the next few days, and then have christmas with his family, open the gifts in hawaii, and then come back shortly after christmas to try to cobble together a deal quickly before the new year, if that can be done. >> they've got until january 1st to do it. he was in the roosevelt room earlier in the day making a major announcement as well. tell our viewers about that. >> reporter: that's right. he used this opportunity to get one cabinet announcement under his belt. but he waited long enough to let -- it took long enough that susan rice first dropped out under pressure. that left john kerry as the last one standing and it's clear here at the white house the president and his aides expect kerry's confirmation to go very smoothly. you can e
hawaii tonight to come back to d.c. let's speak to a republican from florida. congresswoman, you played a big role in getting a marine out of a nightmarish prison in mexico and back to his family for christmas. first, i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff and what's happening in the next couple of days. first, do you think it's possible we'll get anything other than a band-aid between now and six days from now when the triggers kick in? >> i'm very optimistic if all of us pull our weight and do some serious conversations we'll have a bipartisan solution, because nobody wants to go over this fiscal cliff. it will damage our economy. it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's
was a freshman at the university of hawaii. >> host: i apologize. take it one step back. how did she get to hawaii? >> guest: her father, who had been a furniture salesman in mercer island, or in seattle, washington, he got a job selling furniture in honolulu. he was always looking over the next thing. moving west. he moved from kansas, california, spent time and seattle, seattle to hawaii. so she came along as a family. she was only 17 when she graduated from high school, and excellent public school in suburban seattle. her name is stanley and. his name was stanley. barack obama had been there since 1969. also an undergraduate even though he was much older. and they both happen to sign up for a beginning russian class. this was during right after sputnik and the schools all of the country are starting to teach russian. it was the most important thing public schools could do, prepare the u.s. for the cold war. so they both ended up in a russian class and that's what the met. >> host: how long do they know each other before they got married? >> guest: they knew each other for five months.
a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal. the gop leadership has not yet called their members back to d.c. and will not be in session tomorr
in hawaii where the president is spending the christmas holiday. brianna, the president maybe a little too optimistic that a deal can be reached? aloha, by the way. >> he did say last night that he is a hopeless optimist that something can get done, but what we know, it's not going to be that big package, obviously of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction.
honolulu, hawaii where the president and first lady have just arrived. hundreds of hawaiians started gathering saturday to welcome the senator home and pay respects. inouye was a recipient for the medal of honor for his braver. kristen welker joins me now from honolulu. a warm christmas, i see. >> reporter: yes indeed. it is lovely here. >> the president is on christmas vacation and so is congress. that doesn't mean they don't have work to do as the fiscal cliff looms. i take it this is a working vacation. >> reporter: white house officials have described this as a working vacation and talks are going on behind the scenes between white house staffers and hill staffers. the reality is the bulk of this probably won't get done until after christmas when lawmakers are expected to resume negotiations. there is a lot of frustration especially among senior members in both parties in part because president obama, house speaker john boehner seem so close to getting a deal done. they were really close on taxes and entitlement reform. we saw that last week house speaker john boehner couldn't ge
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's flight is cancelled. >> gretchen: we'll talk about that. say aloha in hawaii. president obama will return early from his family's vacation and get back to worth work on the fiscal cliff. peter doocy is live with more on the vacation cutting his vacation short. >> the president will get one more full day of sunshine in hawaii befored hading back to dc. air force one is expected to leave 10:00 p.m. where he is. 3:00 a.m. eastern time and that will get him back thursday morning where he & and speaker boehner need to figure out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress when they are back home to think about that. think . obligations of people who cent us here. >> speaker boehner is expected to return to dc any time he with drew the republican plan b deal that ex
growing up in hawaii that america every america has a place for everyone. may god bless daniel inouye, and may god grant us more souls like his. ♪ ♪ somewhere over the rainbow blue birds fly ♪ >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington where we are expecting to see the first major announcement for president obama's second term. his cabinet choices. this hour the official selection of john kerry as the futures face of the state department. former president bill clinton departing that memorial service. the funeral for senator inouye moments ago with president obama taking time to speak with senator kerry after the service. joining me now for our daily fix chris alissa, msnbc managing editor of post jeffrey goldberg, national correspondent for the atlantic washington bureau chief susan page, and the "new york times" white house correspondent mark lamb berg. let's talk about the pick of john kerry. we knew it was coming. the timing is interesting. they wanted to do this before christmas, but then we thought it was going to be after christmas, even from the kerr
, even the president himself. we would all like to go to hawaii but honestly it was very upsetting. so many people i talked to over the holidays they are saying what are they doing? they should be sitting there doing the tough work we pay them to do, representing us in their various districts and states. >> the optics are terrible, but here's the reality, kimberly. and i'm not disagreeing with the folks that told you that. but the reality is when we are in washington there's one person negotiating on behalf of the house and then 434 people are sitting around naming post offices or playing solitary on their computers. there's only one person who is negotiating on behalf of the house and that's john boehner. and frequently he's negotiating by himself. i'll say this, it's good for us to go home to the people we work for so we can get an earful, as i have gotten over the last three or four days, whether it's the grocery store or church or wal-mart or this morning while i was running someone stopped me and gave me an earful, which i very much need. so if you are going on vacation, then, no,
's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> the president heading back to d.c. from hawaii to try to keep america from going over the fiscal cliff. as the house and senate reconvene tomorrow. the clock is ticking. six days until the deadline. the way things work in washington, can they actually get something done before the end of the year? brianna keilar, what is the latest on this? >> hi, there, drew. president obama will be heading home from hawaii tonight, logical time arri arriving in d.c. thursday morning when the senate will be reconvenin reconvening, and the senate, all eyes on now, that we look for the last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. even though the president is returning on thursday, we may not see the senate roll out its bill to deal with the fiscal cliff. perhaps for a couple of days. this is entirely possible we've learned from sources as senate majority leader harry reid works to get republican support in the senate, which he will need if he's going to pass a bill. and so we're still waiting to see exactly what it will look like that the white house wants for th
. >> and the president isn't going to hawaii now, right? >> the last i heard, it was still up in the air. you can't imagine he would have a vacation now. or any of them shouldn't have a vacation now. but we don't know. so cliff hanger is the right word for sure. >>> now we turn to a political eye opener and a new poll about the republican party. for the first time, the majority of americans, 53% in fact, say the republicans are too extreme. that is up from 40% just two years ago. also 22% of the republicans polled now admit their party is moving beyond the main stream. >>> another madoff family member heads to prison for being part of that multibillion dollar ponzi scheme. bernard madoff's younger brother, peter, has been sentenced to ten years. he pled guilty in june to conspiracy and falsifying the records of an investment adviser. the younger plaido eer madoff s didn't know about the fraud until his brother told him. a new judge in new york said she had a hard time believing that. >>> and call this an indication of the reduced influence of the 220-year-old new york stock exchange. it's being b
? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously
vacation to hawaii because of the ongoing stalemate. nick ratner has the latest from capitol hill. >> reporter: in a stunning surprise, splits within house republican ranks forced speaker john boehner to cancel a planned vote on his tax cut bill. >> the house will call of the chair. >> reporter: in a statement, speaker boehner said his plan "b" tax bill did not have sufficient support to pass. the speaker said, it's now up to the president to avert the fiscal cliff. boehner, earlier, had said he hoped to revive stalled white house negotiations. >> the president and i are going to have to work together to solve those challenges. >> reporter: many house republicans told party leaders they would not support a bill that violated their no tax hike pledge to raise tax rate, even on millionaires. senators have been told to plan on being back in washington two days after christmas, in an effort to keep the country from going off the fiscal cliff. nick ratner, abc news, at the capitol. >>> and the impact of the impasse is already being felt around the world this morning. all of asia's majo
. criminal charges against him were dropped. >>> the state of hawaii is no longer 50th in voter turnout. it's tied for 49th with west virginia. this time around, they've got company at the bottom. both west virginia and hawaii tenned out 44.2% of its voters in 2012. >>> the duke of cambridge decided to cancel a scheduled appearance at a military event to be with his pregnant wife. katherine has been battling acute morning sickness. they are supposeded to attend the royal premiere of "the hobbit" tomorrow but the daily mail says katherine may not be well enough to go. >> if he skips the hobbit for her, that is true love. i'll be impressed. >> thank you. 17 minutes past the hour. time for early reads, local news making national headlines. we're starting with the charlotte news and observer in north carolina where a federal judge ruled the state cannot issue choose life license plates without offering ones with different view points. he called it viewpoint discrimination and violation of the first amendment. pro-choice advocates and the aclu praised that decision but the ruling suggests, they
in time. nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker is in hawaii where the first family is spending the holidays. kristen, good morning. >> reporter: natalie, good morning to you. president obama begins day three of his hawaiian holiday. white house officials say this is a working vacation, but talks on the fiscal cliff remain largely deadlocked. meanwhile, members of congress came to honolulu on sunday to along with the president say good-bye to one of their own. with the fiscal cliff deadline looming, lawmakers and president obama attended a memorial service in honolulu on sunday for the late senator daniel inoyue. >> he was really a legislative hero who would never hesitated to collaborate with a republican colleague for the good of the country. >> reporter: there was little sign of collaboration on the morning talk shows. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. >> the president has been a pathetic fiscal leader. >> both sides blaming each other for the impact. >> i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for pol
hawaii lining state in the capitol rotunda. bob dolce saluting his friend there. they met in an army hospital in 1945. they were both recovering from wounds they obtained in world war 26789 a memorial service is being held at the washington national cathedral. >> a good samaritan hopes to save three people trapped in a burning car and it is all caught on tape. a good samaritan was on the scene first and helped pull the passenger out of the car. that's when officers arrived all of them pulling out two more people who are unconscious. >>> the city of san bernardino will tell a judge it is so in debt it is releasing the debt. they doled out $2 million to employees before it declared bankruptcy in august. it was for unused vacation time and sick time. city officials say the timing is a coincidence. they have a 46 million deficit at this time. >>> they are trying to save lives. live christmas trees in apartment building lobbies are being removed by the fdny. the trees are a fire hazard. upset residents say the lobbies are part of their homes and removing the trees kills the holiday spirit
two weeks until the new year and the president is about to leave for hawaii, and congress is going to be gone for christmas, too, and you know there is no more effective motivator for capitol hill than pressure, and they have it right now. what the president has done today is he has laid out a scaled down version of a fiscal cliff deal, you know, keeping tax cuts in place for 98% of americans, extending unemployment insurance, and laying out a plan, a down payment on a promise to do entitlement reform and also made a pitch to the american people to only blame republicans if there is no deal. so it is a two-pronged attack that he makes right before taking off on vacation. so right now, you know, the plan is basically to keep the pressure on, and we know both sides are planning to come back at some point after christmas and try to get something worked out, but no overt optimism coming really from the aides on either side right now. we'll see, soledad. i will tell you folks right now are planning to make new year's eve plans here in washington, d.c. we're not so sure we're getting out
short and set to leave hawaii tonight to head back to d.c. he will avoid one pr nightmare being on vacation while the precious moments tick away. he faces another as being a president who let the country go off the cliff. if you think that's a bad thing. the senate is back in action and the house has yet to receive a 48 hour heads up to return. john boehner said he refuses to call him back if there is no deal to vote on. he has given up hope and opting to work with senate democrats to push their bill from this past summer that extends rates on those less than $250,000. he failed to get his party behind a threshold and what are the odds this bill will pass. let's get the latest read on those not going on on capitol hill. luke, what is the latest? >> the latest is that there is aides i spoke to that think there is a 50-50 chance that the senate could get a small scale agreement on the floor the next few days and possibly be passed. that gets more and more unlikely as time goes by. harry reid is gauging interest with republican and democratic senators. he doesn't want to put anythi
his hawaii vie cation today. at the top of this hour, expecting any minute on the senate floor that harry reid might come and give us some comment and guidance here on where to expect fiscal cliff talks to go over the next 48 hours or so. we know that the house of representatives will not be in session today but speaker bain he or she conferencing in his colleagues on a phone call this afternoon, all that up against a monday deadline. now we are told by game leadership that they will advise their numbers by saturday if they are going to bring them back into washington for a vote on anything on monday if there is a deal. there you see the united states senate is coming into session is this morning. we are going to keep an eye out for those remarks from senator reid, and of course, remarks on this fiscal cliff debacle have been moving the markets throughout the past couple of weeks, wait and see what harry reid has to say. guys, not a whole lot here to give those guys consumer confidence. >> the essence of poll takes what what we are seeing now this is no surprise, push comes to
journal" is next. ♪ host: good morning , president obama is in hawaii this weekend for the christmas holiday with his family. he will join a congressional delegation later today led by harry reid in services in holland -- in honolulu for late senator daniel inouye passed away last week that congress will return monday to continue fiscal negotiations. we will look at the options ahead for the president as the january deadline looms but we want to begin with your comments on another debate front and center in washington following the tragic shooting in newtown, conn. -- that is gun-control. "the washington post" said a bitter fight ahead. the numbers are on your screen. we look at some of the headlines on the sunday morning beginning with "the connecticut post." - you can see the flag remaining at half staff outside one of the churches in newtown, conn. following the burial of 20 children and six women killed about a week and a half ago. this is from the front page of today's "new york daily news." finally, from the front page is this report about what is ahead in terms of the gun cont
. as you were saying he's en route from hawaii to washington for any last-minute fiscal cliff talks. he left his wife and two daughters in hawaii when he left last night hawaii time. he has been in touch with harry reid's office over the holidays and we did get a scheduled update that the vice president will be here at the white house today for meetings. at this point not a lot of encouraging signs coming out of the white house or capitol hill that a fiscal cliff deal is in sight. patti ann: are there any other meetings set with house republicans? >> reporter: nothing yet, although that can change. we do know that house republican speaker john boehner is still in his home state of ohio. his spokesman says he'll update if there are any travel changes, meaning he'll let us know if the speaker decides to come become to washington for any kind of meetings. house republicans say they passed the stopgap measure extending all existing tax cuts and are pressing the senate to approve it. in a statement yesterday the house g.o.p. leadership said quote the lines of communication remain open and we
. clinton can get back to work. >> he represents hawaii from the time it bicame a state in 1951. and in 1945 in world war ii, he was lobbying hand grenades to the enemy and lost his roit arm. he was friends with a fellow american soldier named bob dole and they went together to champion for veteran's rights . the senator died from respiratory complications and he was 88 years old and his last word was aloha. >> steve: we told you the story over the last couple of weeks by the marine by the name of john hammer. he was going hunting to costa ricka and when he was in matamoras mexico. he declared i have this gun and they say it is not a proper size. they threw him in jail. he did not have the proper permits. but what is interesting about that isolation cell. it is a storage closest. >> gretchen: he's chained to the bed. and we interviewed his mother and he's been chained their since august. he got the gun from his great grand father he registered it before he crossed the border and he was told it is okay. is he held illegally on false charges. hed representatives in state of florida. rubio and
in washington for the late senator of hawaii. a lot go to hawaii tomorrow for the funeral. the senate will probably be back after christmas. who knows what's going to happen. >> like you said, this is really uncharted territory. who knows how this is going to shake down. all we know is there's 11 days left to figure it out. thanks very much. >> is this a lethal blow to boehner, do you think? >> lethal may be going far. does hurt him. rt question is, can speaker boehner influence his own party in the house? this may weaken his position. >> absolutely crazy. >> you know what looks a heck of a lot like the fiscal cliff negotiations? the hockey season. it's not looking good. the nhl has now canceled games through mid-january because of the labor dispute. more than 600 games have been scrubbed. that's half the league's entire schedule for the year. players can decide today if they want to claim the lockout is illegal and sue owners. that's one more step in this whole mess. who knows when they're going to play hockey again. >> why not cancel the season? >> i think people would love it if th
in hawaii. the senate is coming back. the house of representatives meanwhile is going to hold a conference call for all republicans later on today. but it's not clear that all these folks, including the president, are going to have much to do when they do come back to town. there's no deal pending on the table here on the fiscal cliff and we're creeping up here on new year's eve. and then yesterday, as you just mentioned, treasury secretary tim geithner really upped the ante in dramatic stakes in the fiscal cliff end game by saying that the united states is going to hit its borrowing limit on monday. now he said the treasury can put in place some extraordinary measures and it has some wiggle room there but he said that the doubt and uncertainty over the fiscal cliff really clouds the prospect of exactly when the united states is going to hit its debt ceiling, statutory borrowing limit. so, that all adds a whole element of drama to all this. and it's really not clear, guys, at this point, how this thing is going to get resolved. but the house has said that it would like the senate now to go
memorial sunday in hawaii. governor neal abercrombie has asked the state democratic party for a list of three names to consider to fill his seat. the senator wrote a letter to the governor telling him he wanted congresswoman-elect colleen hanabusa to succeed him in the senate. >>> back in washington, vermont senator pat layty was sworn in tuesday to succeed inouye as the senate's president pro tem putting him third in line of presidential succession. >>> meanwhile "the boston globe" reports congressman ed markey apparently has more than just a casual interest in filling the seat of senator john kerry when he, as we all are assuming at this point, leaves to become secretary of state. the paper reports that bay state residents are getting phone calls for a poll that sizes up markey's chances if he faced outgoing senator scott brown in a special election. >>> meanwhile, former massachusetts governor in 1988, presidential nominee michael dukakis tells the ""globe"" it is highly unlikely he'll be the didn't quite rule it out. >>> ted kennedy jr., a connecticut resident, is openly consider
, right? where else would it go? >> university of hawaii has been openly campaigning for it for years. >> bill: oh, really? i hadn't thought about that. kenya? no. >> don't think that will happen. >> bill: but he taught at the university of chicago. >> there is a lot of family connections there. >> bill: he did not attend the university of hawaii. his father did right? >> and his mother. there's ties. he lived there. you don't have to be -- most presidential libraries are affiliated with an academic institution. now, having said that, for years, the university of chicago has had a very quiet under the radar -- putting out feelers to get this. ask him about it. they get all muzzled. so this is breaking out in the open. i want to give credit. politico had a story on this saturday where they talked about how one of the people involved is susan who was mrs. obama's chief of staff. now an executive at the university of chicago. but what this -- there are so many ties to the university of chicago.
anchoring the news in honolulu, hawaii. distance involved, roughly 6,000 miles. my deadline to get the pie to her, 24 hours. cranberry apple, that's what went into the fedex box. for precious or fragile items, best to leave the packaging to the professionals. and our pie is out the door. for the next few hours, you see that purple line? that's our pie on its journey. headed from memphis, tennessee. why memphis? well, look at this place. this is fedex's global super hub, which at more than 800 acres, feels more like a military base than a shipping facility. and with christmas approaching, it's a military base that's gearing up for battle. let's check in on our pie, which they were kind enough to track just for us. it's coming in for a landing soon. so out on the tarmac where it's nonstop on the runways. then our pie is safely on the ground. normally it would be in one of these shipping containers. where is your pie? >> we have your pie right here. >> reporter: for now it's being carried so we can track it through our next stop. they call this the matrix. >> if you stand here 15 minutes, you
medal of honor recipient as an american hero. you had insights. >> his family had been in hawaii since the late 1800s and pearl harbor happened and dan rushed down to the harbor to treat his fellow americans with the training he got in first-aid and then when we were sending japanese americans to internment camps he volunteered for the 42ed. when he was on the dock leaving for war, his father said to him, this country has been very good to your family. you may have to die for this country and it will be a great honor for your family. he ends up saving the national guard unit, losing his arm, getting medal of honor eventually, get back to america, in a hospital room recuperating with guess who? bob doyle and phil hart, his roommates, two of the most distinguished senators in american history. they became fast friends and decided they wanted to devote their life to public service and all went home and ran for the senate and got there, one republican and two democrats. his last word before he died, aloha. we have to pay homage to him. >> we'll be right back. ♪ i'd like to thank eating r
? in hawaii, they mentioned he is lazy because he is from hawaii. i am wondering if he spends all his time campaigning. host: it sounds like he might spend time there because it is warmer than washington, d.c. caller: he does not work that much. when he was in chicago in the senate, in the illinois senate, he did not work that hard. he was only marked present. i did not believe that. now i see the way he operates. he does not seem to be doing his job. that is why he spent $6 trillion, more than any of the president. i am concerned about where he is going and why he does not lead. he gives it up to other people. i do not want to be mean about it. i am very concerned as a citizen on why should be paying more in taxes because he does not want to get into the fight. guest: president's work very hard. president obama worked tremendously hard. george w. bush worked tremendously hard. it is one of the most difficult job there is. presidents work round-the-clock. it is not accurate to say they are not governing when they are campaigning. it is more accurate to say governing and campaigning come ne
, of course, like what can we do about it? right now, the president makes his way back from hawaii today and tonight. the house, we don't know when they are back. boehner is stuck in a blizzard in butler county ohio and don't know when he'll be back. more details from the survey which is interesting. 68% of those polled said negotiators should compromise and 22% said stick to your principles. interesting people are weighing in on this and starting to think about this as we approach the deadline. >> the policies are fascinating, democratic handling and waning on the republican negotiators. >> we knew the republicans would be blamed for the cliff. that's been clear. poll after poll shows that. >> holidays are over. we've gotten through that and now we pay attention to what's going on, and, man, it's ugly. >> i have my husband's birthday to get through. the beat goes on. >> christmas babies get gypped. i feel bad. >> yeah. >> what are you talking about tonight? >> about this, grover norquist to talk about it. >> love him. >> he's got to be annoyeded. >> on where is the commonground. >> than
am flying back from hawaii and see if i can bring them back together. they are far apart as they have been. >> kelly: why are they having the meeting? because of the talk and rhetoric is ramping up and the agreement is going down. i mean, for example, senate majority leader harry reid is name calling and calling john boehner a dictator . this is what he had to say. >> the american people i don't think the house representative is operating without the house of representative. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house and representatives to get what they want. >> that sounds ridiculous f. it was a dictatorship boehner would have gotten that vote and he couldn' get the vote. what we should do honestly guys, is swan dive ov the fiscal cliff. let president obama own the fiscal cliff. it should be called the obama cliff. >> julia: people know how much they would have to pay. folks on the man on the street interviews . people are looking at the numbers going what. >> kelly: in today's meeting should be a crucial meet the white house s
, connecticut, new hampshire. i think hawaii is on that list too. one, two, three, four, five. and the district of columbia plus the state of this year just added, maryland and washington plus, remember the president of the united states himself, who used to be on the fence on this issue has now come out and said he full ly sports same-sex marriage. the obama administration has refused to defend the defense of marriage act. john boehner and eric cantor are still doing it, but the administration is not. the department of justice is not. they said they don't believe in the defense of marriage act any more and they wereare not going to defend it and they hope congress over turns it. george will said here is one of the reasons why politically it has changed. >> they can say it's now safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite literally, the opposition to day garianingmarriage is dying. it's old people. >> it's old people. they are dying off. >> that's an accurate way to put it. >> bill: you talk to young people t
an icbm that could reach the western united states, guam, hawaii and, of course, alaska. what they haven't done yet is demonstrate the ability to tip it with a nuclear weapon. look, the payload in this rocket was about 100 kilograms, about 220 pounds. at their stage of nuclear developments, they would -- could miniaturize a nuclear weapon down to it, but they would need to miniaturize it down to about a ton, about 1500-2000 pounds and lift that into orbit. right now they're a long way from that, but that's not the point. jenna, it's now an engineering problem for north korea and not a scientific and technical problem, and that poses a real risk to the united states. jenna: so you say they're not there yet, but again, that's not the point. >> right. jenna: so what do we do about it, general scales? >> yeah, there are a couple of things. the first thing that i think we must do is expand our psychological operations campaign against the north. we tried this about 10, 15 years ago, it was effective, and it was stopped. look -- jenna: what is that, psychological operations? >> in other words,
the public can pay their respects. the democrat from hawaii was a world war ii hero, witness to pearl harbor and his funeral is tomorrow at the national cathedral. >>> survey of drug use among teenagers marijuana use in 2012 leveled off after rising steadily for four straight years. the study called monitoring the future finds that 6.5% of 12th graders said they smoke marijuana daily, but get this, that's actually down slightly from last year. >>> filmmaker jed apatow where a father plays with his kids and jokes about murdering them will not get cut because of the newtown killings. at one point in "this is 40" he lines up his triplets and says line up for murder, who wants to be killed, he then squirts the kids with the hose. jed wrote the scene two years ago. >> it's done sarcastically as he's talking to his kids but the timing on that. >>> still ahead, too real for a reason? movie critics in the capital slamming "zero dark thirty" the hunt for bin laden. >>> an eagle snatching a baby right off the ground, take a look and they grab the baby and they're off, and then he drops the baby, but i
at the age of 88. he served hawaii as a senator for half a century. and as a congressman for three years before that. earlier this morning, republican house speaker john boehner made some remarks in honor of him. by the way, only 31 people have lain in the capitol rotunda, the last was gerald r. ford nearly six years ago. and the last senator so honored was hubert humphrey of minnesota. inouye was a war hero and served his country for a long time. and you see his casket being placed on the stand there in the u.s. capitol. >>> this morning, more grief and new details in newtown, connecticut, friends of the killer's mother says she spent her final days at a luxury resort in new hampshire. just hours later her son killed her and launched the deadly rampage at the school there. in the wake of the tragedy in newtown, parents are thinking differently about how to protect their children. it may seem like an extreme measure, but some parents are even trying to bulletproof their children. here's cnn's miguel marquez in salt lake city. >> reporter: it is a disturbing sign of the times. >> you guys
both be blamed for. that's why we have the president flying back from hawaii. that's why we have republicans coming in on sunday even though neither side expects it to change any. the great line in this story, the talking bint it they have is the lines of communication remain open, but all are reporting that the lines of communication may remain open but they're not saying anything. they're negotiating out loud. it's like when you send an e-mail and put your boss on it or copy the whole office. you're not trying to persuade but make your point. >> i'll never do that. richard wolf, are you still awake down there. >> i am. i go to starbucks. >> let me ask you this unearned sense of optimism that seeps out between talk of going over the cliff. we'll go over the cliff but get a deal done within the next two weeks after january 1st. why am i thinking maybe they won't get a deal done? >> right. why? because you watched these idiots try to come up with a deal sore. they didn't have an agreement with the recovery act and republicans didn't want to step up then. we're talking about two se
over the cliff. >> mike, what happens to the president's plans? he usually goes to hawaii for christmas and new year's. he'd have to stay in washington. >> i don't know that. because the president's not going to want to look like he's a captive of washington. he did stay here once before and then extended his vacation. that was part of why i've been predicting december 23rd. but these stages of grief by both sides are just going slower than they expected. they're doing the dance, but it's just so slow. so i think it's possible that nothing happens next week, that next week we get a real proposal from either side. but they're not making -- we've been talking about this for months and months. but the guys in the actual room have only been doing this for a couple days. and they're not ready to concede yet. they're still at their sort of starting gate positions. >> mike, is there any sort of quiet blue dog action on this on either the right or the left, more moderate members who are talking maybe offline who may step into the breach if there is one? >> there's a little bit, and there's cert
arrives on time. 72 degrees he leaves in hawaii. 38 degrees he arrives to here in washington. and believe me, they're going to need to bring some of that sunshine here because there's certainly not a lot of smiles on the faces of the lawmakers as they come back. >> kurt andersen. >> chuck, this is kurt andersen. i've heard you talk how important you think it is to get a deal done in order to establish a level of comity, that's c-o-m-i-t-y. >> reporter: the other comedy is worth talking about, too. >> are you of the mind that there will be a deal sooner rather than later, like by next tuesday, or a grand bargain in order to sort of get the debt ceiling and other things out of the way for a while? >> reporter: no, i think they've got to get the large deal. and here's the thing, i still think they could get a large deal, you know, the debt ceiling -- using the debt ceiling as leverage, i think politically, by the way, republicans had totally misreading the landscape on this up with. if they think that's a good idea come february to use the debt ceiling, raising that as leverage, again, i thi
rd, hawaii and american university law schools. he's a member of the american academy of appellate lawyers and was its president from 1999-2000. he's a graduate of yale university and the harvard law school, served as a commissioned officer in the u.s. navy and was an assistant u.s. attorney in new york. please welcome alan morrison. [applause] >> thank you, roger. i also have the distinction of two things. one, i read and commented on stuart and rick's book. i don't want to get any medal of honor for that. my name is in the acknowledgments, i found it today, so nobody's come after me yet. laugh and if you think it's insend yea -- incendiary now, you should have read the draft i read. [laughter] i'm one of the few lawyers who did not file a brief in the fisher case. [laughter] okay. so let's begin by remembering that fisher is a concrete lawsuit and not an academic debate about the values of affirmative action. the question in this case is did the university of texas violate the equal protection clause in connection with its undergraduate admission program, and did abigail fisher,
to be levied against the middle class. our president is taking a 20- day vacation in hawaii to cost the taxpayers $4 million. he is just going to blame the republicans and let the taxes go up on everybody. host: grace says -- guest: medicare's costs have grown slower than the private insurance market. even though it is a big expense for the federal government, it would be even more expensive if we were growing at the same rate of private insurance. medicare has millions and millions of patients and to negotiate much lower rates. on the flip side of that, the issues we talked about earlier about doctors not wanting to participate. medicare has a huge population so they are able to streamline a lot of the education costs. host: another comment on our twitter page -- guest: malpractice is an issue that came up in the health care debate but did not move for that much. it is one solution that might make doctors more comfortable in their practice, that they are now worried about getting sued all the time. most of the estimates show it would be relatively small in the world of health care
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